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	<title>Comments on: RSSCloud For WordPress</title>
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		<title>By: Joseph Scott</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-25004</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ultimately it is up to those 3rd part services (like Google Reader) to subscribe to updates (via rssCloud or PuSH) in order for them to actually get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately it is up to those 3rd part services (like Google Reader) to subscribe to updates (via rssCloud or PuSH) in order for them to actually get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-24765</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph, 

Thank you very much for your post. I have several blogs using wordpress.com and just recently decided to take the plunge and try to host my own wordpress.org installation. 

My initial reaction was that I was very upset that all of my post on wordpress.com were updated to Google instantly, but that it would sometimes take days for the post on my new site josh.net to be recognized by Google. 

I did a lot of searching and could not figure it out. I double checked and ping-o-matic was working, but did not make a difference, then as I was about to give up I came across your blog.

So I wanted to thank you very, very much!! RSSCloud seems to be working fantastic for me. I&#039;ll be sure to let you know if I have any additional feedback.

Best regards,
Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph, </p>
<p>Thank you very much for your post. I have several blogs using wordpress.com and just recently decided to take the plunge and try to host my own wordpress.org installation. </p>
<p>My initial reaction was that I was very upset that all of my post on wordpress.com were updated to Google instantly, but that it would sometimes take days for the post on my new site josh.net to be recognized by Google. </p>
<p>I did a lot of searching and could not figure it out. I double checked and ping-o-matic was working, but did not make a difference, then as I was about to give up I came across your blog.</p>
<p>So I wanted to thank you very, very much!! RSSCloud seems to be working fantastic for me. I&#8217;ll be sure to let you know if I have any additional feedback.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Josh</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; RSSCloud For WordPress. (WP plugin) http &#8230; vrypan&#124;net&#124;asides</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-23942</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; RSSCloud For WordPress. (WP plugin) http &#8230; vrypan&#124;net&#124;asides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For WordPress. (WP plugin) http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For WordPress. (WP plugin) <a href="http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Scott</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FeedBurner case is one I&#039;m looking at.  WordPress does provide a way for plugins &amp; themes to change the feed URL, so the plugin could potentially just look there instead.  That doesn&#039;t solve the problem of outdated data being provided by FeedBurner (as you described).

I should have an update to the rssCloud plugin this week that will be better about matching the feed URL to blog and provide more helpful error messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FeedBurner case is one I&#8217;m looking at.  WordPress does provide a way for plugins &#038; themes to change the feed URL, so the plugin could potentially just look there instead.  That doesn&#8217;t solve the problem of outdated data being provided by FeedBurner (as you described).</p>
<p>I should have an update to the rssCloud plugin this week that will be better about matching the feed URL to blog and provide more helpful error messages.</p>
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		<title>By: James Holderness</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-12121</link>
		<dc:creator>James Holderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been looking at the source code for the WordPress rssCloud plugin, and in the notification_request function, I see you check that the url being requested exactly matches the rss2 url for the blog and refuse to accept the registration if not. The problem is that the check is made after calling back to the client&#039;s notify url and you always return a &quot;Registration successful&quot; regardless. As a result there is no way for the client to tell that the registration has failed.

This is a fairly common problem for people that use feedburner. In many cases the client will be subscribed to the feedburner url rather than the original WordPress feed url, which means the cloud registration is guaranteed to fail silently (assuming I&#039;ve understood the code correctly).

One possible fix would be to improve the error checking so the client is at least informed of the failure. A nicer solution would be to accept any url that was requested in the registration since, at least in your case, the registration url is always unique for a particular blog is it not? The feed url that the client is using shouldn&#039;t matter.

Of course the next problem with feedburner feeds is that there is a delay between when the blog is updated and the feedburner feed actually reflects those changes. If a client receives a notification that the feed has updated and immediately refreshes that feed, the data it gets back will be out of date, so it won&#039;t see the update.

It&#039;s possible this can be solved by WordPress automatically pinging feedburner (if it doesn&#039;t already) and a short delay in the client to allow time for the feedburner version of the feed to refresh. However we won&#039;t know how workable that solution is until problem number one has been addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just been looking at the source code for the WordPress rssCloud plugin, and in the notification_request function, I see you check that the url being requested exactly matches the rss2 url for the blog and refuse to accept the registration if not. The problem is that the check is made after calling back to the client&#8217;s notify url and you always return a &#8220;Registration successful&#8221; regardless. As a result there is no way for the client to tell that the registration has failed.</p>
<p>This is a fairly common problem for people that use feedburner. In many cases the client will be subscribed to the feedburner url rather than the original WordPress feed url, which means the cloud registration is guaranteed to fail silently (assuming I&#8217;ve understood the code correctly).</p>
<p>One possible fix would be to improve the error checking so the client is at least informed of the failure. A nicer solution would be to accept any url that was requested in the registration since, at least in your case, the registration url is always unique for a particular blog is it not? The feed url that the client is using shouldn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Of course the next problem with feedburner feeds is that there is a delay between when the blog is updated and the feedburner feed actually reflects those changes. If a client receives a notification that the feed has updated and immediately refreshes that feed, the data it gets back will be out of date, so it won&#8217;t see the update.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible this can be solved by WordPress automatically pinging feedburner (if it doesn&#8217;t already) and a short delay in the client to allow time for the feedburner version of the feed to refresh. However we won&#8217;t know how workable that solution is until problem number one has been addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of VOIPSA &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Added RSS Cloud plugin to this site (and what that means)</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-10706</link>
		<dc:creator>Voice of VOIPSA &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Added RSS Cloud plugin to this site (and what that means)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For those interested in the underlying plumbing of this site, today I added the RSS Cloud plugin for WordPress to this site that is described in more detail in this post: &#8220;RSSCloud for WordPress&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For those interested in the underlying plumbing of this site, today I added the RSS Cloud plugin for WordPress to this site that is described in more detail in this post: &#8220;RSSCloud for WordPress&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WordPress Supports Real-Time RSS Technology- RSSCloud - Blog Reign</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-10636</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress Supports Real-Time RSS Technology- RSSCloud - Blog Reign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] information periodically crawl into a real-time tracking, real-time display the contents. Right now RSSCloud has been first used in Wordpress.com hosting platform for 7.5 million blogs. It is reported that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] information periodically crawl into a real-time tracking, real-time display the contents. Right now RSSCloud has been first used in Wordpress.com hosting platform for 7.5 million blogs. It is reported that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Scott</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-10631</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;ll see about setting up a fresh WPMU 2.8.4 test install and see if a I can track it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll see about setting up a fresh WPMU 2.8.4 test install and see if a I can track it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-10625</link>
		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing I can see. Activating and de-activating it site-wide produces nothing in the apache log with debug level turned on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I can see. Activating and de-activating it site-wide produces nothing in the apache log with debug level turned on.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Scott</title>
		<link>http://josephscott.org/archives/2009/09/rsscloud-for-wordpress/#comment-10623</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, are there any errors in the server logs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, are there any errors in the server logs?</p>
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